Nov. 17, 2025

From "So That" to "And Yet:" A Theology of Suffering

From "So That" to "And Yet:" A Theology of Suffering
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From "So That" to "And Yet:" A Theology of Suffering

What is God's will for humanity? Is it found in Genesis 1 and 2, or does Genesis 3 reveal something deeper? In this episode, Mike and Tim tackle "The Mystery of God's Will" by unpacking Genesis 3 and exploring how God's ideal will contrasts with the realities of a fallen world. With a focus on themes like cruciformity, faith, and navigating cultural challenges, the conversation dives into questions about suffering, the role of ideologies, and how theology shapes our understanding of justice and faith.

The hosts discuss how God's will operates within suboptimal conditions, the complexities of prayer, and how Jesus challenges simplistic moral frameworks. They also examine the role of the church in society and the intersections of faith and politics, offering insights on how Christians can engage with cultural issues while holding space for mystery, tension, and humility in their faith.

Join the conversation as they challenge common assumptions about God's nature, human suffering, and the role of theology in understanding our world. Engage with the discussion, share your thoughts, and send in your questions—we'd love to hear from you as we pursue these important conversations together!

CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Tim's Punk Rock Show
01:40 - Corrections
03:20 - Understanding God's Will
06:40 - This Week in Christian Nationalism
16:04 - Women's Voting Rights Debate
17:14 - Final Thoughts on Ideologies
21:31 - Ideologies Explored
23:20 - Changing Ideological Systems
27:10 - Combating Ideological Challenges
34:45 - Complexity and Mystery of Faith
36:38 - Seeking the Truth
42:10 - What is the Truth?
42:53 - Intro
45:50 - Romans 8:28 Explained
51:10 - Moral Calculus in Christianity
54:00 - Insights from John 9
59:56 - God's Plan for Humanity
1:02:48 - God's Will Revisited
1:05:30 - How Prayer Works
1:06:36 - The Problem of Evil
1:07:31 - Understanding God's Nature
1:09:40 - OUTRO
1:11:32 - Outro

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